Dear Crucial Skills,
Our son is married to a narcissistic sociopath. (Our mental health professional diagnosed her based on behavior we described.) They have been married for ten years and have three children, aged seven and under. We saw the relationship bombing in the beginning and asked him to rethink the marriage. She has been in attack mode since. She isolates him from family and friends and monitors and controls all aspects of his life. He barely speaks to us. He clams up when we attempt to talk about our concerns. We feel hopeless. How can we have a conversation about our concerns for him and his children?
Signed,
Hopeless
Dear Hopeless,
Family discord is especially potent and difficult. I am sorry you and your family are going through these tough times. Wanting to protect someone you love while feeling shut out is painful. I have some thoughts based on our Crucial Conversations courses that I believe will get you on the right road to re-establishing communication and better relationships.
But before I begin, we must speak frankly. As Joseph Grenny has written, “The fastest path to resolving disgust for another person is a searching look in the mirror.” When relationships become this strained, it’s worth asking a hard question: Is there anything in my approach that is contributing to the problem? As you continue reading, I would kindly suggest that the key question is not “How can we have a conversation about our concerns?” Consider this question instead: “How can we work to establish greater love and respect for my son and his family, including my daughter-in-law?”
Look for Facts, Not Stories
Speaking generally, we humans love to jump to conclusions. We rush to judgment based on what we’ve observed, and then have a difficult time realizing our point of view is fairly myopic. The stories in your description of your situation include labeling your daughter-in-law a narcissistic sociopath, claiming she is in attack mode, and stating she controls all aspects of his life. That may be what it feels like to you, but are those facts? Or just how you feel about the situation?
For example, how does your son feel about his wife? Does he feel the same way as you about his marriage? Or does he not speak to or spend more time with you for very different reasons? You place the blame for his silence on her, but there’s also the real possibility he has his own reasons for withdrawing.
As you begin to get back to building love and trust with your son and his family, avoid using labels and accusations. Think of what has actually occurred, consider and seek to discover possible reasons for those actions, and reflect on what you have contributed to the situation.
Create Safety
You mentioned your son “clams up” when you try to mention your concerns. This is because he does not feel safe when speaking with you. This is not unique to your son – when people feel you don’t respect them or their judgment, they will shut down rather than address concerns.
So how do you begin to re-build that lost safety? Before you go into a conversation, ask yourself: What do I really want—for me, for him, for our relationship? If it’s to get revenge, browbeat, or prove yourself correct, you won’t get far. But if it’s to show love for your son and to understand how to build a relationship with him and his family, he’s much more likely to feel safe and respond positively.
You must make your intentions unmistakably clear. You might say something like, “We want you to know we love you. We’ve made mistakes in the past, and we apologize. Moving forward, we won’t tell you what to do. We just care about you and your family and want to stay close and be supportive.” Notice that you’re expressing what you want for him, not what you want from him.
When your son feels respected and confident that you share a common purpose—loving and caring for one another—he will be far more willing to talk with you rather than retreat.
Allow for Agency
As children become adults, our influence changes. We can love, advise, and express concern, but we can’t force them to do what we want.
Your son may not be reacting only to your concerns; he may be perceiving that you’re attempting to control his agency. If he senses that every conversation is an attempt to change his marriage or convince him he is wrong, he’s going to “clam up.” People rarely become defensive about what you’re saying—they become defensive because of why they think you’re saying it.
Allowing for agency doesn’t mean you agree with every decision. But it does mean you respect his right to make those decisions. You can’t control his choices, but you can preserve your connection to him. Over time, that connection, built on respect and love, will do far more to preserve your influence than pressure ever will.
As you begin to establish a better relationship with your son and his family by following these steps, give yourself and them time and grace. You likely will need to revisit and remind yourself to look for facts, create safety, and allow for agency many times. But as you replace stories with facts, criticism with respect, and control with love, you make it far more likely that he’ll begin to open up with you. And dialogue is always the first step toward change.
Sincerely,
Jordan
Well said, but I’m surprised you didn’t address their comment that their mental health professional diagnosed her condition using THEIR described behaviors. These are their perceived actions not actions witnessed by the professional. No professional will make a diagnosis based on someone else’s description of actions, they would only hypothesis what the individual maybe be experiencing and want one on one counseling to make an accurate diagnosis.
Well said, Jordan. To me, this is the key point… “You can’t control his choices, but you can preserve your connection to him.”
Talking to someone about their marriage is a big deal. I would guess that the son already knows there is a problem—he’s just in an extremely tough spot. The most important thing his parents can offer is safety and unconditional support.
My brother-in-law was married to a sociopath (professional diagnosis from a counselor who did see her in person during therapy) for 25 years. She was physically and emotionally abusive to him and their children. He believed her behavior was the result of the abuse she said she suffered as a child and wouldn’t hear a word against her. He felt that if he just loved her enough, she would get “better” and be happy. It took seeing their daughter turning into a carbon copy of her mother for his eyes to be opened and for him to leave, taking their youngest son (whom the daughter was beating up) with him. He had to get a PFA against his wife because she tried to kill him. We stayed supportive of him and his choices during the marriage, even though we were concerned about the abuse, and as a result he felt safe coming to us when he was ready to leave. He had to leave in a hurry, grabbing only what he could shove into a bag while the two women were distracted. Despite the PFA and the fact that their last remaining child lived with him, a judge ordered him to pay her support. Our legal and social system is not set up to recognize and deal with women who are abusive, whether that is physical or mental abuse. The best thing you can do is repair your relationship with him and be as involved in his life as you can, so that when he sees that the relationship is dangerous and he is ready to leave, he will feel that he can turn to you and you will not judge him.
Love the way you approached it. To find a way to connect is key, and to do it, to see yourself and the way you react, and judge can help to stop and build a new possibility.
My 2c: It sounds like the son has already received their message loud and clear, in which case continuing to make it is actually harassment and will only harm the relationship. I would suggest they make the boundaries with the wife that are necessary (e.g. if she is really disrespectful to them or him in front of them and won’t change that when asked, then they can refuse to have her visit, for example), but otherwise be there for him and be loving and supportive and not speak negatively to him about his family. He has chosen to marry this person and have kids. Maybe that’s a mistake and maybe he will agree with that years down the road, but right now, this is a situation of semi-abusive parents trying to micromanage a son’s decisions (ironically, when that’s their complaint about the wife) when he is an adult and has made clear that he doesn’t want to talk about it, and they need to accept that for better and worse. At this point, if the son DOES change his mind about his wife, I doubt he’ll come back to his parents and say ‘you were right’, because they are acting patronizingly, despite that it’s out of love, and that’s not a respectful relationship. If he was like 15 things would be different, but he isn’t.